oxxyfx 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 Hi, There have been many discussions about the trace width on the PCB which leads the signal up to the SMA antenna connector. On one of my receivers I am forced to move the SMA connector a bit further away from where I originally designed it. The width of these traces on a 0.8mm FR4 doble sided PCB board is calculated to 1.44mm. This mathces the 50 Ohm impedance required - at least theoretically. Up till now on test boards I used 1.5mm traces and it gave me quite good results. The question is - if I need to move the SMA connector further away from the receiver (this is RX and not TX) do I have to make sure the trace is of a certain length? Like 1/2 or 1/4 wavelength? The original tests were made with trace lenght = 8.33mm (calculated by the information Eagle gives me / trace segments - it might not be completly accurate..) In the new position the trace length will be 13.14mm - calculated the same way as the previous. So how long should it be? Thanks, Ox. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThomasScherrer 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2007 (edited) it is the WIDTH that gives you the 50 ohm, if the width is correct your loss will be MUCH lower and the length dont care that much. you dont have to care about the wavelength in a transmission line made with coax or microstrip. 1.4mm width on 0.8mm FR4 = 50 ohm (Er 4.7) 1.5mm width on 0.8mm FR4 = 50 ohm (Er 4.2) 1.7mm width on 1.0mm FR4 = 50 ohm (Er 4.7) 1.9mm width on 1.0mm FR4 = 50 ohm (Er 4.2) Be warned Fr4 fiber glass can have Er from 3.8 to 4.8 ! and also FR4 is full off loss you are right an open or shorted transmission line must be of exact wavelength to give you what you like, a filter pass band or a stop band to kill unwanted jammers :-) 13mm length is really short !! even with FR4 and even at 2.4GHz be SURE your ground is made correct all the way, and no tracks close to your stripline, make at lesst 1.5 the width, in space to parallel ground on top layer. Edited October 4, 2007 by ThomasScherrer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThomasScherrer 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2007 (edited) on this page: http://www.webx.dk/rc/video-wireless/filtergps.htm you see some examples of stripline designs made for 2.4Ghz and UP !, the PCB material is Rogers 4000, but can also be Nelco and even Teflon I also use for lowest loss and low intermodulation. Edited October 4, 2007 by ThomasScherrer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oxxyfx 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2007 Thank you Thomas, this is really great explanation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites